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:finish colonial documents; contact Michael Warner?
 
:finish colonial documents; contact Michael Warner?
 
:finish Wurttemberg essay
 
:finish Wurttemberg essay
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:get my photo collection back.
  
 
*Lauren should focus on getting to know the site's operation, function, codes, and content.
 
*Lauren should focus on getting to know the site's operation, function, codes, and content.
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Alphabetical notes below:
 
Alphabetical notes below:
  
What are the priorities among the following items?
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What are our priorities among the following items?
 +
 
  
 
*'''AHA Meeting of OutHistory Advisors'''
 
*'''AHA Meeting of OutHistory Advisors'''
 
:JNK contact Karen Krahulik. Are we getting a meeting space at the AHA?
 
:JNK contact Karen Krahulik. Are we getting a meeting space at the AHA?
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 +
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*'''Blog?'''
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:Should we set up some sort of history blog, have different guest historian bloggers?
 +
  
 
*'''Categories, Categorizing'''
 
*'''Categories, Categorizing'''
 
:Dee Michel is looking at.
 
:Dee Michel is looking at.
 +
  
 
*'''Content'''
 
*'''Content'''
 
:How to inform users of all content types? Dee Michel working on this. NY Times and Village Voice content pages.  
 
:How to inform users of all content types? Dee Michel working on this. NY Times and Village Voice content pages.  
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 +
*'''Content credibility?'''
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:Tension between anonymous public access sections, accountability, and tension between public access and credibility of evidence presented by named authors, some of whom have credentials and prestige.  Recognize that a hierarchy exists, then deal with it.
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*'''Content Needed'''
 
*'''Content Needed'''
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:Marriage: The History of LGBTQ Marriage. Email lawyers involved.
 
:Marriage: The History of LGBTQ Marriage. Email lawyers involved.
 
:Military: The "Gays in the Military" Issue--History. Email Aaron Belkin
 
:Military: The "Gays in the Military" Issue--History. Email Aaron Belkin
 +
:Newsworthy historical revelation for debut???? Would be great.
 +
:Outreach to get the content we want rather than writing it ourselves.
 +
:Presidents, U.S.: Buchanan. Collect evidence. Lincoln, Present all the evidence on the site.
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*'''Content Possible'''
 
*'''Content Possible'''
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:Local LGBTQ Histories
 
:Local LGBTQ Histories
 
:Review the site, review and article, review a book, review a historical movie, etc.
 
:Review the site, review and article, review a book, review a historical movie, etc.
 +
:Exhibits planning. Same-sex intimacy in U.S. advertising. Affectionate men and affectionate women photo collections. Books.
 +
:add today's popular content categories? Entertainment, Religion, Sports, Travel
 +
:John D'Emilio's piece on Allan Berube, with large collection of pictures of Allan that no one else has. Scan and upload them from my house?
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*'''Content Promised'''
 
*'''Content Promised'''
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:Feminism and Pornography
 
:Feminism and Pornography
 
:Explicit sexual description
 
:Explicit sexual description
 +
  
 
*'''Domain Names'''
 
*'''Domain Names'''
 
:Buy OutHistory.org.us  ?  Buy other major countries?
 
:Buy OutHistory.org.us  ?  Buy other major countries?
 +
  
 
*'''Fellowships to create entries'''
 
*'''Fellowships to create entries'''
 
:Deadline?  Put on Upcoming on News page
 
:Deadline?  Put on Upcoming on News page
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 +
 +
*'''Functions, site'''
 +
:Should we add a What's New? on the site function to the red bar? And can it operate automatically to list everything new?
 +
  
 
*'''Funding of OutHistory.org?'''
 
*'''Funding of OutHistory.org?'''
 
:Howard Gilman Foundation?
 
:Howard Gilman Foundation?
 
:John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation?
 
:John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation?
:Any Warhol Foundation of the Visual Arts
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:Andy Warhol Foundation of the Visual Arts
 
:New York State Council on the Arts
 
:New York State Council on the Arts
 
:Meeting soon?
 
:Meeting soon?
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:Put the budget on line on the site?   
 
:Put the budget on line on the site?   
  
*'''Gay TV -- Cable'''
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:Tie ups? See how they do history.
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*'''Gay TV -- Cable--History Channel'''
 +
:Tie ups? Study how they do history.
 +
 
  
 
*'''Help'''
 
*'''Help'''
:Write up how to do everything on Help Page.
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:Write up how to do everything on Help Page. This is MAJOR.
 +
 
  
 
*'''How to:''' Research LGBTQ History.
 
*'''How to:''' Research LGBTQ History.
 
:Find out what is known already. Don't reinvent the wheel.
 
:Find out what is known already. Don't reinvent the wheel.
 +
  
 
*'''Integrating LGBTQ History'''
 
*'''Integrating LGBTQ History'''
 
:in the U.S. History curriculum; suggestions?
 
:in the U.S. History curriculum; suggestions?
 +
  
 
*'''Internships'''
 
*'''Internships'''
 +
  
 
*'''Legal'''
 
*'''Legal'''
 
Email Ropes and Gray for advice schedule
 
Email Ropes and Gray for advice schedule
 +
  
 
*'''LGBTQ Art History'''
 
*'''LGBTQ Art History'''
 
:"Art and the Gay Revolution" entry: Start bibliography
 
:"Art and the Gay Revolution" entry: Start bibliography
 
:Art inspired by history as illustrations for website. (Marget Long, Nathaniel Siegel)
 
:Art inspired by history as illustrations for website. (Marget Long, Nathaniel Siegel)
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*'''Logo Idea'''
 
*'''Logo Idea'''
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:The Day Is: 9
 
:The Day Is: 9
 
:The Year Is: 2008
 
:The Year Is: 2008
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*'''Mentoring system?'''
 
*'''Mentoring system?'''
 
:Can we provide this for unexperienced researchers, writers?
 
:Can we provide this for unexperienced researchers, writers?
 +
  
 
*'''My History'''
 
*'''My History'''
:Should we add a function with this name to "my" section of the red bar? The idea would be to encourage people to write little mini-histories of themselves, encouraging the idea that everyone is important.  We would put a little note to that effect at the top of the section.
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:Should we add a function with this name to "my" section of the red bar? The idea would be to encourage people to write little mini-histories of themselves, encouraging the idea that everyone is important.  We would put a little note to that effect at the top of the section. History from the ground up. History of "ordinary" people. Memoir can be powerful. First person testimony is powerful. Is this different than blogging?
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 +
 
 +
*Networking
 +
:Should we establish specific easy ways that researchers interested in particular topics can network with each other?  If so, how?  This could turn out to be very popular, JNK thinks.
 +
 
  
 
*'''OutHistory's Character'''
 
*'''OutHistory's Character'''
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:Popular and Scholarly!  
 
:Popular and Scholarly!  
 
:Two parts: content by named authors and content provided by anyone with data, documents, and citations to share.  
 
:Two parts: content by named authors and content provided by anyone with data, documents, and citations to share.  
 +
:Present site is a PROTOTYPE with a sampling of the wide variety of content and types of written, audio, and visual materials that can eventually go on it.
 +
:What defines an LGBTQ history site as opposed to an LGBTQ encyclopedia? or an LGBTQ archive? JNK thinks we need to keep stressing this and figuring out how to actively, creatively make the site historical.
 +
:Repurposing old historical work for a new web audience. Taking out of print articles and books that no one else will make as readily accessible and making them readily accessible.
  
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*'''Publicity Volunteer?'''
 
*'''Publicity Volunteer?'''
 
:JNK email Sarah
 
:JNK email Sarah
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:New York Historical Society
 
:New York Historical Society
 
:blog sites David recommended (find his list)
 
:blog sites David recommended (find his list)
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*'''Stub'''
 
*'''Stub'''
 
:Urge users to create stub categories if they want to know about a subject/topic and there is no entry for it. "If you don't see something, write something."
 
:Urge users to create stub categories if they want to know about a subject/topic and there is no entry for it. "If you don't see something, write something."
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 +
 +
*'''Uploads'''
 +
Do we have the capacity now to upload audio and video or movies? We should have at least one sample of each on the site by the time we go on line. By the way, what happened to the Evelyn Hooker video?
 +
  
 
*'''Yochai Benkler,''' The Wealth of Netowrks. (A manifesto for online collaboration mentioned in the NYT recently)
 
*'''Yochai Benkler,''' The Wealth of Netowrks. (A manifesto for online collaboration mentioned in the NYT recently)

Revision as of 16:18, 12 June 2008

Jonathan's Diary -- Making OutHistory.org

For the Week Starting Monday, June 9, 2008 Additions last made: Thursday, June 12

Priorities for this week?

  • Jonathan
finish colonial documents; contact Michael Warner?
finish Wurttemberg essay
get my photo collection back.
  • Lauren should focus on getting to know the site's operation, function, codes, and content.
Jonathan thinks that in the advanced "Time era" search there are too many choices, and confusing, and that perhaps there should only be one choice for each period, and that the periods should be consecutive. What does Lauren think?
Lauren and Jonathan plan to have lunch next week?


Alphabetical notes below:

What are our priorities among the following items?


  • AHA Meeting of OutHistory Advisors
JNK contact Karen Krahulik. Are we getting a meeting space at the AHA?


  • Blog?
Should we set up some sort of history blog, have different guest historian bloggers?


  • Categories, Categorizing
Dee Michel is looking at.


  • Content
How to inform users of all content types? Dee Michel working on this. NY Times and Village Voice content pages.
  • Content credibility?
Tension between anonymous public access sections, accountability, and tension between public access and credibility of evidence presented by named authors, some of whom have credentials and prestige. Recognize that a hierarchy exists, then deal with it.


  • Content Needed
AIDS History (Visual AIDS has visual stuff)
Asian American LGBTQ History
Hispanic LGBTQ History (or should it be called Latina/o LGBTQ History?)
Lesbian History (Email Liz Kennedy, Lila Rupp, Estelle Freedman, Lillian Faderman, etc.)
Marriage: The History of LGBTQ Marriage. Email lawyers involved.
Military: The "Gays in the Military" Issue--History. Email Aaron Belkin
Newsworthy historical revelation for debut???? Would be great.
Outreach to get the content we want rather than writing it ourselves.
Presidents, U.S.: Buchanan. Collect evidence. Lincoln, Present all the evidence on the site.


  • Content Possible
Bibliographies. Largest free on line list. Annotated. Categorized. Enlist authors and publishers?
LGBTQ History and Biological Determinism
Local LGBTQ Histories
Review the site, review and article, review a book, review a historical movie, etc.
Exhibits planning. Same-sex intimacy in U.S. advertising. Affectionate men and affectionate women photo collections. Books.
add today's popular content categories? Entertainment, Religion, Sports, Travel
John D'Emilio's piece on Allan Berube, with large collection of pictures of Allan that no one else has. Scan and upload them from my house?


  • Content Promised
Tavia
John D:
JNK African American biblio on old laptop
  • Contest?
Should we have contests for the best original research, photo, visual art work, etc?
  • Controversial entries policy?
Child Pornography
Feminism and Pornography
Explicit sexual description


  • Domain Names
Buy OutHistory.org.us ? Buy other major countries?


  • Fellowships to create entries
Deadline? Put on Upcoming on News page


  • Functions, site
Should we add a What's New? on the site function to the red bar? And can it operate automatically to list everything new?


  • Funding of OutHistory.org?
Howard Gilman Foundation?
John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation?
Andy Warhol Foundation of the Visual Arts
New York State Council on the Arts
Meeting soon?
Grass roots fundraising via the web? How does Obama do it?
Put the budget on line on the site?


  • Gay TV -- Cable--History Channel
Tie ups? Study how they do history.


  • Help
Write up how to do everything on Help Page. This is MAJOR.


  • How to: Research LGBTQ History.
Find out what is known already. Don't reinvent the wheel.


  • Integrating LGBTQ History
in the U.S. History curriculum; suggestions?


  • Internships


  • Legal

Email Ropes and Gray for advice schedule


  • LGBTQ Art History
"Art and the Gay Revolution" entry: Start bibliography
Art inspired by history as illustrations for website. (Marget Long, Nathaniel Siegel)


  • Logo Idea
The Month Is: June
The Day Is: 9
The Year Is: 2008


  • Mentoring system?
Can we provide this for unexperienced researchers, writers?


  • My History
Should we add a function with this name to "my" section of the red bar? The idea would be to encourage people to write little mini-histories of themselves, encouraging the idea that everyone is important. We would put a little note to that effect at the top of the section. History from the ground up. History of "ordinary" people. Memoir can be powerful. First person testimony is powerful. Is this different than blogging?


  • Networking
Should we establish specific easy ways that researchers interested in particular topics can network with each other? If so, how? This could turn out to be very popular, JNK thinks.


  • OutHistory's Character
Accesibility principle: Making data and ideas freely and readily accessible even though they are "accessible" if you know where and what to look for, have time, access to a major library, etc.
Collaborative
Participatory
Open
Digitable Democracy
History from the Community Up
Changeable
Transparent
Prototype should provide an exciting sampling suggesting the site's diverse, vast possibilities
Community-based history and historians
Interactive? How to make it more interactive?
Freely accessible
Educational (but this is such a deadly word); Public Education function of site
Institutionally-based in order to assure continuity over the long term.
Popular and Scholarly!
Two parts: content by named authors and content provided by anyone with data, documents, and citations to share.
Present site is a PROTOTYPE with a sampling of the wide variety of content and types of written, audio, and visual materials that can eventually go on it.
What defines an LGBTQ history site as opposed to an LGBTQ encyclopedia? or an LGBTQ archive? JNK thinks we need to keep stressing this and figuring out how to actively, creatively make the site historical.
Repurposing old historical work for a new web audience. Taking out of print articles and books that no one else will make as readily accessible and making them readily accessible.


  • Publicity Volunteer?
JNK email Sarah
  • Red Bar Listings
Rearrange the listings within each section alphabetically unless there is a pressing reason not to.
Are all the functions listed necessary? Could some be placed elsewhere on the site? For instance, some of the one's to do with the operation of the site: Block User
Should some red bar functions be renamed?
What's the dif between Links and What Links Here?
Should the sections be titled as in Wikipedia to say what each of them represents?
  • Save Page, etc. placement is awk
  • Sites to Learn From
New York Historical Society
blog sites David recommended (find his list)


  • Stub
Urge users to create stub categories if they want to know about a subject/topic and there is no entry for it. "If you don't see something, write something."


  • Uploads

Do we have the capacity now to upload audio and video or movies? We should have at least one sample of each on the site by the time we go on line. By the way, what happened to the Evelyn Hooker video?


  • Yochai Benkler, The Wealth of Netowrks. (A manifesto for online collaboration mentioned in the NYT recently)

END DIARY



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JNK is storing this here: from notes in GAH or GLA

MERRYMOUNT About 1626, according to William Bradford, Thomas Morton and the other male settlers at Merrymount were guilty of "great licentiousness." The men's consorting with Indian women is mentioned, along with "worse practices" associated with ancient Roman feasts. Bradford said that Morton and his men "set up a maypole,drinking and dancing about it many days together, inviting the Indian women for their consorts, dancing and frisking together like so many fairies, or furies, rather; and worse practices. As if they had anew revived and celebrated the feasts of the Roman goddess Flora, or the beastly practices of the mad Bac-' chanalians." Subject for research: It would be interesting to know just what feasts and "beastly practices" Bradford had in mind; see his Of Plymouth Plantation, pp. 204-06; Oaks, 'Things Fearful,' " p. 269.

Alphabetize category entries by last name You simply add this snippet of text above the category: {{DEFAULTSORT:Kolbe, Jim}}

Let me just mention that the link text donesn't necessarily need to be the same as the article title. I can link to Jim Kolbe's article for example by typing [[Jim Kolbe|Jim Kolbe's article]] (text before vertical bar is what it links to, text after the vertical bar is what it says on the page). You can also automatically sign your name when you write something on the discussion pages (like I did below) by typing four tilde characters (~~~~). The will turn into a signature stamp when you save or preview.

Ebukva 12:30, 8 November 2007 (PST)

I was here. JNK Jnk 12:58, 19 November 2007 (PST)


Hello and welcome to OutHistory.org.

Thank you signing up and contributing to the project. Here are a couple of things you may find helpful as you navigate your way through the site:

  • First, we suggest that you set up the correct time zone for yourself by visiting the preferences page. This will allow you see when articles have been posted and edited according to your local time, rather than Greenwich Mean Time. Click on the "Date and time" tab and simply click on the "Fill in from the browser" button to determine your time zone automatically. You can also set other useful defaults on the preferences page.
  • Next, try editing your own user page to tell others a bit about yourself and get familiar with editing. You can access your user page by clicking on your username on the top of the sidebar.
  • Each user on OutHistory has a user page and a talk page. Use your and others talk pages for discussion and communication. Just like on Wikipedia, it's a standard practice to indent your paragraphs one level further when engaging in a discussion. Type a single or multiple colons before each of you paragraphs to indent text (::Like this). Sign your edits automatically by typing four tilde characters (~~~~). If your discussion concerns a single article, edit that article's discussion page instead.
  • Finally, for advanced editing see editing help and above all, experiment on the sandbox page rather than a real article page.

Ebukva 14:31, 10 January 2008 (PST)